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    It is not the case that Death is nothing to us.

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.Deprivation of future goods constitutes a harm even if the subject never consciously experiences that deprivation.
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    • 2.Death deprives its subject of all future pleasures, achievements, and relationships they would otherwise have had.
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    • 3.Therefore death is a harm to the one who dies, regardless of whether they exist to experience it as such.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Ante-mortem persons can have legitimate interests in their post-mortem reputation, legacy, and the fulfillment of their projects.
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    • 2.Interests that exist before death are genuine interests of the person, even if they extend beyond the moment of death.
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    • 3.Therefore death can frustrate real interests of a real subject, making it something to us while we still exist.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.When we exist, death is not present.
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    • 2.When death is present, we no longer exist.
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    • 3.Therefore there is no time at which death and its subject coexist, so death cannot affect us.
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