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    Divine love does not imply further Persons beyond those a... — Carmelics
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    Divine love does not imply further Persons beyond those already implied by divine self-knowing.

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    • Divine love is the same relational property as divine self-knowing.
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    • 1.Divine love essentially involves a will toward the good of another, while self-knowing is an intellectual rather than volitional act.
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    • 2.Richard of St. Victor argues that perfect charity requires a co-beloved (condilectus) as object, generating a third Person distinct from knower and known.
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    • 3.If love's formal structure differs from cognition's, love may generate distinct relational properties not reducible to those produced by self-knowing.
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    • 1.Aquinas distinguishes the procession of the Word (per modum intellectus) from the procession of the Holy Spirit (per modum voluntatis) as genuinely distinct modes.
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    • 2.If the will's procession is irreducible to intellect's procession, divine love implies a Person whose distinguishing relation cannot be captured by the Father-Son dyad alone.
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    Divine love doesn’t imply further Persons because it’s the same relational property as divine self-knowing. God-as-knower isn’t numerically the same as God-as-known because of the essential asymmetry of the knowing relation (ibid.). Divine love, Koons says, is a kind of charity of friendship; thus, lover and beloved can’t be numerically identical. So if the Father loves the Son, this implies that they are numerically distinct (non-identical). It also implies that they are really distinct and not really the same. In specifying what he means by real distinctness Koons writes,
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