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    It is not the case that Dying at a time is not overall bad for everyone who dies.

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    • 1.Welfare comparisons between actual and merely possible lives require a subject who exists in both scenarios to serve as the basis of comparison.
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    • 2.A non-existent Hilda cannot be the subject of welfare facts about how her life would have gone had she lived past 25.
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    • 3.Therefore, the comparative welfare calculus in the supporting argument lacks a coherent subject and cannot ground claims about death being good for her.
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    • 1.On Epicurean and deprivationist accounts alike, what makes death bad is not experienced suffering but the deprivation of future goods one would otherwise have had.
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    • 2.Hilda's death at 25 deprives her of any goods she might have acquired beyond age 50, goods excluded by artificially truncating the comparison to only the bad years.
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    • 3.Selectively comparing only the bad counterfactual years while ignoring potential future flourishing renders the welfare comparison in the supporting argument systematically incomplete.
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    • 1.If Hilda had not died at age 25, she would have fared badly for 25 years with a low welfare level during that time.
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    • 2.Her lifetime welfare level had she not died at 25 is significantly lower than her lifetime welfare level if she did die at 25.
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    • 3.Therefore, dying at 25 is overall good for Hilda.
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