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    Challenges→Egoistic love is fundamentally different from conventional love and cannot be straightforwardly substituted for it.

    Egoistic love retains the self as the ultimate object, allowing self-denial only when it enhances the lover's own pleasure.

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    That said, it is far from certain that all of the relationships that he mentions would survive intact from their reincarnation in egoistic form. Consider, for example, Stirner’s contrast between two different kinds of love: the “bad case” where “ownness” is sacrificed, and egoistic love in which self-rule is retained. Egoistic love allows the individual to deny themself something in order to enhance the pleasure of another, but only because their own pleasure is enhanced as a result. The object

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