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    Engaging in rational persuasion thus commits Protagoras t... — Carmelics
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    Supports→Protagoras's attempt to persuade others to accept relativism is pragmatically self-refuting

    Engaging in rational persuasion thus commits Protagoras to the existence of mind-independent evaluative standards—precisely the objectivism he denies.

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    • 1.Rational persuasion assumes the persuader can show the other person their current view is mistaken, not merely different.
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    • 2.Showing someone mistaken requires standards of correctness that exist independently of what any individual believes.
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    • 3.Protagoras's relativism denies such mind-independent standards, making rational persuasion logically incoherent for him.
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    • 1.Persuasion need only appeal to shared standards both parties accept, not standards that are metaphysically objective.
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    • 2.Protagoras can rationally argue for relativism using intersubjective logic without requiring mind-independent evaluative facts.
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    • 3.The charge conflates 'objective standards' with 'standards that work as reasons in dialogue'—relativists can accept the latter.
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