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    It is not the case that Epicurus argued death is the cessation of all experience, making it neither good nor bad for the one who dies.

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    • 1.Death can be bad by depriving us of future goods we would have experienced, even if death itself involves no experience.
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    • 2.The deprivation theory explains why premature death seems worse than timely death—both are non-experiences, yet differ in harm.
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    • 3.Epicurus's argument conflates 'harm during death' with 'harm from death,' but harms can occur by preventing future goods.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Only experiences that occur can be good or bad for someone; death involves no experiences, so it cannot be bad.
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    • 2.We don't consider the time before birth bad for us despite our non-existence then; death's non-existence is comparable.
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    • 3.Fearing death as harmful requires believing a non-existent state can harm an entity that doesn't exist to be harmed.
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