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    It is not the case that Epistemic quality of collective decisions, not mere numerical force, grounds the legitimacy of a decision procedure.

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    • 1.Epistemic quality is subjective and contested; competing groups disagree on what counts as sound reasoning, making it an unstable legitimacy basis.
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    • 2.Numerically-grounded procedures (like majority rule) provide transparent, contestable accountability; epistemic standards allow hidden expert manipulation.
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    • 3.Even epistemically flawed decisions respect equal political standing; epistemic criteria risk excluding voices deemed insufficiently rational by authorities.
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    • 1.Procedures lacking epistemic quality produce systematically false beliefs, undermining informed consent and rational authority acceptance.
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    • 2.Mere numerical majorities can enforce decisions reflecting prejudice or ignorance, making legitimacy depend on reasoning quality, not just votes.
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    • 3.Citizens comply with procedures they perceive as truth-tracking, not merely as expressions of aggregate preference, suggesting epistemic grounding matters.
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