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    It is not the case that Even if consensus existed, widespread rational agreement has historically endorsed claims later shown to be false (e.g., geocentrism).

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    • 1.Past scientific consensuses were overturned by *better evidence and reasoning*, not despite rationality—rationality self-corrected.
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    • 2.Geocentrism wasn't rationally endorsed by modern standards; available observations were interpreted through limited frameworks.
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    • 3.The claim conflates 'consensus was wrong' with 'consensus is unreliable'—but science's track record improved *because* it respects evidence.
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    • 1.Rational agents with available evidence have endorsed false theories (geocentrism, phlogiston, steady-state cosmology).
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    • 2.Consensus reflects the limits of current evidence and methods, not truth itself—both can shift while agreement existed.
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    • 3.Historical false consensuses show that widespread rational agreement provides no guarantee against future falsification.
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