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    Even if logic is mind-independent, grasping that '7+5=12'... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Mathematical truths like '7+5=12' are necessary not because minds impose structure, but because they follow from logical axioms alone (Frege, Grundlagen).

    Even if logic is mind-independent, grasping that '7+5=12' follows from axioms requires cognitive interpretation—necessity doesn't eliminate this dependency.

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