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    Every kind of thought present in us belongs to the soul. — Carmelics
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    Every kind of thought present in us belongs to the soul.

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    • 1.Anything we experience as being in us that can also exist in wholly inanimate bodies must be attributed only to the body.
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    • 2.Anything in us that cannot be conceived as capable of belonging to a body must be attributed to the soul.
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    • 3.We have no conception of the body as thinking in any way at all.
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    • 1.Neural correlates of consciousness studies show specific brain states are necessary and sufficient conditions for particular thought-types.
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    • 2.If thought requires specific physical substrates as necessary conditions, thought cannot be attributed exclusively to an immaterial soul.
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    • 3.Descartes' own pineal gland mechanism concedes that physical states modulate thought content, undermining the soul's explanatory monopoly.
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    • 1.Spinoza demonstrated that thought and extension are parallel attributes of one substance, making soul-body dualism an illegitimate explanatory division.
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    • 2.If thinking and bodily processes are parallel modifications of the same underlying substance, attributing thought exclusively to 'soul' misidentifies the proper subject.
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    Descartes’ criterion for determining whether a function belongs to the body or soul was as follows: “anything we experience as being in us, and which we see can also exist in wholly inanimate bodies, must be attributed only to our body. On the other hand, anything in us which we cannot conceive in any way as capable of belonging to a body must be attributed to our soul. Thus, because we have no conception of the body as thinking in any way at all, we have reason to believe that every kind of tho
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