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    Extensional models can accommodate temporal illusions without yielding contradictory perceptual experiences.

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    • 1.Extensional models posit that experience is constituted by a temporally extended neural process, not a punctate snapshot at a single moment.
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    • 2.A temporally extended process can represent successive contradictory states as a unified sequence without logical contradiction, just as a film reel encodes motion.
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    • 3.The phi phenomenon and color phi experiments show subjects report a single coherent percept whose content is retrospectively shaped by later stimuli, consistent with extensional integration rather than contradiction.
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    • 1.Representationalists like Tye and Dretske distinguish between the content of a representation and the existence of the represented property in the world, so misrepresentation is not contradiction.
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    • 2.Temporal illusions involve the perceptual system issuing a single, determinate misrepresentation of temporal order or duration, which extensional models can classify as representational error rather than contradictory experience.
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    • 3.Dennett's Multiple Drafts model explicitly rejects a Cartesian Theater where conflicting signals must resolve into one 'official' experience, showing extensional frameworks need not posit contradictory co-present representations.
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    • 1.It takes time for perceptual systems to produce an experience in response to a stimulus.
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    • 2.Perceptual systems may use this processing time to compute a single coherent response to ambiguous or conflicting stimuli.
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    • 3.If perceptual systems resolve ambiguity before producing an experience, the stimulus will be experienced just once — for example, as moving — rather than as both stationary and moving.
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    Coming from a very different direction, Grush has argued (2005b, 2006, 2007, 2016) that Retentional models have a distinct advantage over Extensional models when it comes to accommodating certain ‘temporal illusions’. The relevant category of cases are those where a stimuli occurring later than a time t affects the character of what is perceived as occurring at t itself; the so-called flash-lag effect and the phi-phenomenon fall into this category. These instances of (apparent) retro-active caus
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