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    Fodor's revised argument against the Chinese Room is unsu... — Carmelics
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    Fodor's revised argument against the Chinese Room is unsubstantiated

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    • 1.Fodor claims that because the man in the Chinese Room sets out to implement the steps in the computer program, he is not implementing those steps
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    In a later piece, “Yin and Yang in the Chinese Room” (in Rosenthal 1991 pp.524–525), Fodor substantially revises his 1980 view. He distances himself from his earlier version of the robot reply, and holds instead that “instantiation” should be defined in such a way that the symbol must be the proximate cause of the effect – no intervening guys in a room. So Searle in the room is not an instantiation of a Turing Machine, and “Searle’s setup does not instantiate the machine that the brain instantia
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