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    It is not the case that For all we know, this world may have been created by a limited, inferior, or negligent deity rather than a perfect one

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.The observed imperfections of the world are consistent with creation by an infant deity who abandoned the project
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    • 2.The observed imperfections of the world are consistent with creation by a superannuated deity in dotage
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    • 3.We have no clear evidence of perfection in this world that would rule out these alternative hypotheses
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    Reasons Against

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    Reason against 1 of 2
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    • 1.The distribution of suffering in nature follows no discernible pattern of moral desert, indicating indifference rather than benevolent design.
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    • 2.An indifferent or limited designer is a simpler explanation for morally arbitrary suffering than a perfect being requiring elaborate theodicy.
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    • 3.Ockham's razor favors the hypothesis requiring fewer auxiliary assumptions, and a limited deity requires no theodicy to explain natural evil.
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    Reason against 2 of 2
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    • 1.Leibniz's own argument that God chose the best of all possible worlds concedes that non-optimal worlds are metaphysically conceivable alternatives.
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    • 2.If non-optimal worlds are conceivable and the actual world contains suboptimal features, the actual world's designer need not have been perfect.
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