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    Supports→Pairs of coexistent God-like omnipotent agents are impossible.

    For any possible pair of coexistent God-like omnipotent agents, one member of that pair could endeavor to actualize a different, equally good, world than the other member, even given their hypothesized necessary epistemic, moral, and aesthetic perfection.

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    Actualize(as describing what power someone has)
    To make something real or bring it into existence; to turn a possibility into reality.
    Aesthetic perfection(describing one type of perfection the agents would have)
    Being perfect in terms of beauty, taste, and artistic judgment.
    Epistemic
    "Epistemic" relates to knowledge—how we know things, what counts as knowledge, and whether we can trust what we believe to be true. It comes from the Greek word for knowledge and is used to describe questions about the reliability and validity of our beliefs and understanding. For example, "epistemic humility" means acknowledging the limits of what you can actually know for certain.

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    God-like(describing the nature of the agents being discussed)
    Having qualities traditionally associated with God, such as extreme power, knowledge, or perfection.
    Moral perfection(describing one type of perfection the agents would possess)
    Being perfect in terms of right and wrong; having flawless ethics and doing what is right in every situation.
    Necessarily perfect(describing how the epistemic, moral, and aesthetic perfection would have to exist)
    Perfect in a way that cannot be otherwise; perfection that must be true given the nature of something.
    coexistent(describing multiple agents existing simultaneously)
    Able to exist at the same time together without contradiction.
    omnipotent(Used in the context of arguing about whether multiple omnipotent beings could coexist.)
    A being whose will is never thwarted; a being capable of bringing about any willed outcome.

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    So, for any possible pair of coexistent God-like omnipotent agents, it appears that one member of that pair could endeavor to actualize a different, equally good, world than the other member of that pair, even given their hypothesized necessary epistemic, moral, and aesthetic perfection. In the light of the reductio ad absurdum presented earlier, it appears to follow that such pairs are impossible.

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