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    It is not the case that For Aristotle, 'better known by nature' and 'better known to us' are both epistemic conditions that determine what counts as a genuine starting point for demonstration.

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    • 1.The claim conflates epistemic conditions for valid demonstration with psychological conditions for successful teaching, which serve different functions.
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    • 2.Aristotle's actual theory privileges one criterion per context; conflating them obscures whether demonstrations require objective or subjective starting points.
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    • 3.Some commentators argue 'better known to us' functions as pragmatic advice, not a metaphysical requirement for genuine scientific demonstration itself.
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    • 1.Aristotle explicitly distinguishes between items known absolutely and items known to us in Physics I, indicating two separate epistemic axes.
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    • 2.Demonstration requires starting from premises the audience actually grasps; mere logical validity insufficient without pedagogical accessibility.
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    • 3.Both conditions jointly prevent vicious circularity: nature-ordering prevents arbitrariness, while accessibility prevents demonstrating the obscure from the obscure.
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