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    It is not the case that Frege and Russell demonstrated that all geometric truths can be derived from purely logical axioms without invoking spatial representation.

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    • 1.Geometric axioms (like 'between' or 'congruence') contain implicit spatial meaning that cannot be eliminated through formal notation alone.
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    • 2.Russell's logical constructions still require interpreting symbols and formulas as representing spatial relationships, not replacing spatial thought.
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    • 3.Humans only understand logically-derived geometry by translating back into spatial mental models, indicating spatial intuition remains foundational.
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    • 1.Frege's formal logic successfully reconstructed Euclidean geometry using only logical operators and quantifiers without spatial intuition.
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    • 2.Non-Euclidean geometries, derived from identical logical methods, prove geometry depends on formal axiom choices, not spatial experience.
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    • 3.Logical derivations are universal and mind-independent, whereas spatial representations vary by individual perception and cognitive capacity.
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