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    FUNC is plausible

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    • 1.STAT FUNC is true as a matter of the mathematics of QM
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    • 2.If FUNC were true, STAT FUNC could be derived from FUNC
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    • 3.Deriving STAT FUNC from FUNC would allow part of the mathematics of QM to be understood as a consequence of FUNC
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    • 1.STAT FUNC being derivable from FUNC tells us nothing about FUNC's plausibility unless we already have independent grounds for preferring hidden-variable completions.
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    • 2.The Kochen-Specker theorem demonstrates that any hidden-variable theory reproducing QM statistics must be contextual, making FUNC's applicability to non-commuting observables formally inconsistent.
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    • 3.Deriving a known truth from a hypothesis via a valid argument establishes only consistency, not plausibility — affirming the consequent is a logical fallacy.
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    • 1.Bohr's principle of complementarity entails that conjugate observables like position and momentum have no simultaneous definite values, making FUNC's domain of application physically empty for such pairs.
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    • 2.If FUNC presupposes that all observables possess simultaneous pre-measurement values, it conflicts with the Copenhagen interpretation's instrumentalist reading, which remains the dominant framework among practicing physicists.
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    But STAT FUNC cannot only be derived from the QM formalism; it also follows from FUNC [Proof]. This can be seen as providing “a plausibility argument for FUNC” (Redhead 1987: 132): STAT FUNC is true, as a matter of the mathematics of QM. Now, if FUNC were true, we could derive STAT FUNC, and thus understand part of the mathematics of QM as a consequence of FUNC.[12]
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