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    It is not the case that God, as Creator, would deal with a much larger picture and a much longer timeframe than that with which humans are immediately concerned.

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    • 1.Marilyn McCord Adams argues that God's 'larger picture' justification mirrors precisely the consequentialist reasoning classical theists use to impugn utilitarian ethics.
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    • 2.If present suffering is instrumentalized toward future divine repair, the intrinsic dignity of persons as ends-in-themselves is violated on Kantian grounds.
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    • 3.A God who permits genuine horrors on the basis of a timeframe inaccessible to victims provides no morally relevant distinction from a God who permits gratuitous evil.
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    • 1.If God's larger timeframe can retrospectively repair all harm, then the concept of irreversible moral wrong becomes incoherent within theism.
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    • 2.A moral framework that renders no harm ultimately real undermines the grounds for any divine judgment, including eternal torment itself.
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    • 1.We humans tend to think of irreparable harm within the context of a very limited timeframe, a person's life on earth.
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    • 2.Harm that no human being can repair may nonetheless be harm that God can repair at some future time.
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