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    It is not the case that God cannot change (God is immutable).

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.A God who genuinely loves creatures must be capable of responsive states (grief, compassion, joy) that vary with creaturely conditions.
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    • 2.Responsive relational states constitute a form of real change in the subject who undergoes them.
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    • 3.Therefore immutability, as classically defined, is incompatible with the robust personal love Scripture and religious experience attribute to God.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.The identification of perfect being with changelessness presupposes a Parmenidean-Platonic ontology in which becoming is inferior to static being.
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    • 2.Whitehead and process theologians argue that dynamic becoming—the capacity to be enriched by experience—is a perfection, not a deficiency.
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    • 3.If perfect being includes maximal experiential richness, then a God incapable of change would lack a genuine perfection rather than possess one.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.God must be the perfect case of being.
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    • 2.What can change is not a perfect case of being.
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