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    God could presumably have contrived to achieve virtue at ... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→The soul-making theodicy is at best an incomplete answer to the problem of suffering.

    God could presumably have contrived to achieve virtue at less cost in suffering.

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    Soul-making, according to its defenders, is not possible except through the experience of suffering. Because this is so, and because a world in which humans are brought to spiritual maturity through this process is incomparably better than a hedonistic paradise, there is every reason to expect that a perfectly good and loving God would create a world in which there is suffering. Still, the opponent may object that this answer is at best incomplete. For, he will argue, not all of the suffering of the world enters into soul-making. Consider again the case that was mentioned earlier, of the fawn ...

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