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    It is not the case that God has a timeless mode of existence.

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.A being that cannot act, respond, or relate to temporal creatures within time lacks causal efficacy in the temporal world.
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    • 2.A timeless God cannot coherently perform dated actions like creation, revelation, or answered prayer without becoming temporal.
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    • 3.Therefore, timeless existence is incompatible with the relational and providential attributes essential to the God of classical theism.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Perfection in a personal being requires the capacity for knowledge of tensed facts, such as what is happening now.
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    • 2.A timeless being cannot possess genuine knowledge of tensed facts, since such knowledge requires a temporal standpoint (Castañeda, Prior).
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    • 3.Therefore, timeless existence entails a cognitive limitation incompatible with divine omniscience, undermining premise P2 of the supporting argument.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.The most perfect being, God, has the most perfect mode of existence.
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    • 2.Temporal existence is a less perfect mode of existence than timeless existence.
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