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    It is not the case that God has no existence apart from the existence of human consciousness and of nature.

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    • 1.God, in the theological sense, is God only as long as God is conceived as a being distinguished from the being of man and nature.
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    • 2.The attributes ascribed by theists to God are attributes derived either from human consciousness or from nature.
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    • 1.Every predicate attributed to God—omniscience, love, justice—is intelligible only by analogy to human cognitive and moral capacities.
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    • 2.A being whose entire content is exhausted by humanly-derived predicates cannot possess ontological independence from the minds that generate those predicates.
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    • 3.Feuerbach's projection thesis is thus not merely psychological but logically entailed: God's attributes constitute God's being, and those attributes are human.
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    • 1.Kant demonstrated that pure reason cannot establish the existence of any being beyond possible experience, collapsing traditional proofs of a mind-independent God.
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    • 2.If the only coherent theological content derives from practical reason—moral ideals, rational teleology—then 'God' names a regulative ideal of human reason, not a transcendent entity.
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    • 3.A being that exists solely as a regulative ideal of human rational practice has no existence apart from the consciousness that posits it.
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