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    It is not the case that God is eternal.

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    • 1.Universal rational consensus across cultures does not exist: many traditions conceive of gods as temporal, finite, or subject to change.
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    • 2.Even if consensus existed, widespread rational agreement has historically endorsed claims later shown to be false (e.g., geocentrism).
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    • 3.The epistemic weight of consensus collapses if derived from shared cultural inheritance rather than independent rational inquiry.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.If God acts causally in time—as most theistic traditions affirm—God must stand in temporal relations, making timelessness incoherent (Swinburne, 'The Coherence of Theism').
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    • 2.A being that is strictly atemporal cannot respond to prayers, foreknow free actions, or intervene in history without acquiring relational properties indexed to time.
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    • 3.Therefore, divine eternality as timelessness is incompatible with the robust personal agency attributed to God in the same traditions that assert God's eternity.
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    • It is the common judgement of all creatures that live by reason that God is eternal.
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