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    God is the most genuine and imperishable good — Carmelics
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    God is the most genuine and imperishable good

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    • 1.True good must be everlasting, safe, and unchangeable
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    • 2.Only God possesses all requisites of being everlasting, safe, and unchangeable
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    • 1.The predicate 'good' is properly applied only to agents whose actions can be evaluated against needs or interests of sentient beings.
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    • 2.God, as traditionally conceived as self-sufficient and without lack, has no needs or interests that actions could satisfy or frustrate.
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    • 3.Therefore God cannot coherently be the referent of 'good' without equivocating on the term's meaning, as Spinoza argued in the Ethics.
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    • 1.Everlastingness and unchangeability are necessary conditions for imperishability but not sufficient conditions for genuine goodness.
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    • 2.A timeless, unchangeable entity lacks the responsiveness to contingent suffering that grounds our attribution of goodness to persons, as J.N. Findlay contended.
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    • 3.The supporting argument conflates ontological permanence with axiological supremacy, committing a category error identified in Moore's open-question argument.
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    God is absolute good84%Only God has all the requisites to be an imperishable good82%God is essentially good78%Therefore, there is no possible reason for God making anything less th...78%

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    Strictly speaking, goods and ills are values. As such, they transcend the level of nature and therefore cannot be treated as if they were natural or against nature: “Goods and ills reside in the soul; faculties and defects in the body; helps and impediments in fortune and its occurrences” (Theonoston, OO, II, 314b). In general terms, Cardano defines the good as “what is longed for by the majority of human beings,” such as health, wealth, friends, glory, offspring and wisdom. In a more specific s
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