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    It is not the case that Group members who openly resist or fight against their community's bad actions or policies should not be held collectively responsible for those actions.

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.Membership in a community confers ongoing benefits (security, resources, identity) that persist even when one dissents from specific policies.
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    • 2.Accepting communal benefits while remaining a member creates a form of complicity that active dissent on isolated issues does not fully negate.
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    • 3.Arendt's notion of political responsibility holds that we are responsible for the polities we belong to regardless of personal innocence or guilt.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Dissent that fails to actually prevent harm may be insufficient to sever the causal connection between group membership and collective wrongdoing.
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    • 2.Jaspers' concept of political guilt assigns responsibility to all citizens for the state's actions when they lack the power to have prevented them, regardless of protest.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Collective responsibility is ascribed to those who participate in or fail to oppose a group's harmful actions.
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    • 2.Dissenters actively oppose their community's bad actions or policies rather than participating in them.
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    • 3.It would be wrong to hold someone responsible for harm they actively worked against.
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