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    It is not the case that Happiness does not include health, pleasure, or wealth.

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    • 1.Aristotle explicitly identifies external goods and bodily goods as necessary conditions for eudaimonia in Nicomachean Ethics I.8-10.
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    • 2.A virtuous person suffering severe illness, poverty, or deprivation lacks the material preconditions for full human flourishing.
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    • 3.Therefore happiness requires, at minimum, a threshold of health, resources, and pleasure as enabling conditions for virtuous activity.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.The Stoic claim that virtue alone suffices for happiness was rejected by the Peripatetics as paradoxical and contrary to common moral experience.
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    • 2.Pleasure, when rational and proportionate, is not separate from virtuous activity but constitutes its natural completion, as Aristotle argues in NE X.4.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Possessing and exercising virtue is happiness.
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    • 2.Health, pleasure, and wealth are not virtues.
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