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    It is not the case that Hell is eternal alienation from God

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    • 1.Some people who live without God are quite happy
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    • 2.Hell does not allow people to be quite happy
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    • 3.If the above is true, then it is not that Hell is eternal alienation from God
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.God does not have a reason to cut off the wicked from creation permenantly
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    • 2.If the above is true, then it is not that Hell is eternal alienation from God
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Augustine argued that the human soul has an irreducible orientation toward God, such that existence without God constitutes ontological privation, not mere unhappiness.
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    • 2.Apparent happiness without God reflects a disordered will mistaking finite goods for the infinite good, not genuine flourishing (Confessions I.1).
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    • 3.Hell as alienation describes a metaphysical condition of the soul, not a subjective psychological state, making surface-level contentment irrelevant to the claim.
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    Reason against 2 of 2
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    • 1.C.S. Lewis argued in 'The Great Divorce' that the damned are not externally cut off by God but self-seal their rejection of communion through the permanent fixation of their will.
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    • 2.If the will is genuinely free and irreversibly hardened against God, then eternal alienation is a logical entailment of libertarian freedom, not an arbitrary divine act.
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    • 3.God's non-intervention in the finalized free choice of a rational agent is consistent with, not contrary to, divine goodness and justice.
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