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    Henry Shue's foundational distinction between subsistence... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Climate justice frameworks should focus on protecting and promoting human interests rather than on distributing emissions.

    Henry Shue's foundational distinction between subsistence and luxury emissions shows that the moral weight of an emission derives from its type, not merely the interest behind it.

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    • 1.Emissions meeting basic human needs (food, shelter, health) carry moral urgency that luxury emissions (private jets, excess consumption) lack.
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    • 2.Distinguishing emission types enables fair burden-sharing: wealthy nations reduce luxury emissions while poor nations develop subsistence capacity.
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    • 3.A purely interest-based framework would treat a billionaire's comfort travel equally to a farmer's survival-linked agricultural emissions.
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    • 1.The subsistence/luxury boundary is culturally contingent and constantly shifting, making it an unreliable basis for universal moral claims.
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    • 2.Even subsistence emissions from wealthy populations often embed historical luxury patterns; distinguishing types masks this embedded inequality.
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    • 3.Focusing on emission type ignores that moral weight should derive from available alternatives—what matters is whether lower-emission options exist.
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