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    Hobbes' war of all against all is defined by mortal insec... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Universal defection among rational self-interested agents produces a state analogous to Hobbes' war of all against all.

    Hobbes' war of all against all is defined by mortal insecurity and absence of property, not merely suboptimal equilibrium outcomes.

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    • 1.Hobbes explicitly grounds conflict in fear of death and insecurity, not just preference rankings—a qualitatively different existential threat.
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    • 2.Without property rights, there's no stable basis for exchange or cooperation, making even mutually beneficial equilibria impossible to sustain.
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    • 3.The state of nature lacks enforcement mechanisms for agreements, so rational actors cannot coordinate out of conflict despite preferring peace.
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    • 1.Game-theoretic analyses show conflict arises from suboptimal coordination even with property and security—the problem is structural, not definitional.
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    • 2.Hobbes' own logic suggests insecurity and lack of property are consequences of the war, not independent causes—they're conceptually circular.
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    • 3.Anthropological evidence suggests property and some security exist even in acephalous societies, undermining the claim these are absent in nature.
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