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    Hudson and Sider's work on extended simples and multilocation demonstrates that Functionality is a substantive metaphysical commitment, not a logical truth, and cannot serve as a premise in a general proof.

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    • 1.Extended simples and multilocation are metaphysically possible, showing that Functionality can be violated without logical contradiction.
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    • 2.If Functionality were logically true, denying it would be self-contradictory; yet Hudson-Sider scenarios are merely substantively controversial.
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    • 3.General proofs require premises that hold across all possible worlds; Functionality fails in some coherent metaphysical models.
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    • 1.Extended simples may be logically incoherent even if their incoherence requires substantive metaphysical argumentation, not just formal logic.
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    • 2.Showing Functionality is substantive doesn't establish it can't serve as a proof premise—many substantive truths legitimately ground general arguments.
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    • 3.Hudson-Sider work assumes Functionality is contingent, but this assumption itself requires independent justification beyond merely proposing counterexamples.
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    Key Terms

    General proof(what Functionality cannot be used to establish)
    A logical argument showing that something must be true in all cases, or for all things of a certain kind.
    Hudson and Sider(named philosophers whose research is being cited)
    Contemporary philosophers who study metaphysics (the nature of reality); their work challenges traditional assumptions about how objects can exist in space.
    Metaphysical commitment(describing what accepting an idea requires)
    A belief you're taking on about how reality fundamentally works—what actually exists and what's possible.
    Multilocation(technical concept in metaphysics)
    The idea that a single object can exist in multiple places at the same time—like a ghost appearing in different rooms simultaneously.
    Premise
    A premise is a statement or fact that you assume to be true as a starting point for reasoning or making an argument. Think of it as the foundation or building block you use to reach a conclusion—for example, "All dogs are animals" and "My pet is a dog" are premises that lead to the conclusion "My pet is an animal." Premises are essentially the evidence or claims you offer before drawing a final conclusion.
    extended simples(Entities that occupy a region of space yet are mereologically simple)
    Objects or regions that have spatial extension but no proper parts
    logical truth(Bolzano's formal definition, inapplicable to purely logical propositions)
    A proposition is logically true if all of its i^s-variants (substitutions of extra-logical ideas) are true
    substantive(classification of linguistic forms by their role in expressing categories of thought)
    The linguistic form required to express thought's apprehension of independent objects

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