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    Human beings do make themselves, in the same garden-varie... — Carmelics
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    Human beings do make themselves, in the same garden-variety sense in which they make other things.

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    • 1.Aristotle's account in Nicomachean Ethics II holds that character is formed through repeated voluntary actions, making agents genuinely causally responsible for their dispositions.
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    • 2.Voluntary actions require only that the origin of motion is in the agent, not that the agent is uncaused — a standard humans routinely meet.
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    • 3.Because character-shaping actions originate in the agent and are not compelled, the resulting self is authentically the agent's own product in the same sense a craftsman owns his craft.
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    • 1.Harry Frankfurt's hierarchical model in 'Freedom of the Will and the Concept of a Person' shows that self-making consists in identifying with and endorsing one's motivational structure through second-order volitions.
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    • 2.This identificatory process is a genuine form of authorship over one's will, requiring no exemption from causal history — only reflective endorsement from within the agent's own evaluative perspective.
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    • 3.Since other forms of making (carpentry, writing) similarly involve working within causal constraints while exercising structured agency, self-making satisfies the same criteria without requiring libertarian origination.
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    • 1.Humans plant gardens, cook dinners, build boats, write books, and over the course of their lives re-invent and re-create themselves.
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    • 2.None of these activities require making something 'from scratch', without help from anyone or anything else.
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    • 3.It is impossible for human beings to make anything from scratch.
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    What’s the argument for premise (2)? After all, we do make our selves, at least in the garden-variety way in which we make other things: we plant gardens, cook dinners, build boats, write books and, over the course of our lives, re-invent, re-create, and otherwise “make something of ourselves”. Of course we don’t do any of these things “from scratch”, without help from anyone or anything else, but it’s impossible (or at least impossible for human beings) to make anything from scratch. The truth
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