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    It is not the case that Human life cannot get close to the life that truly is (divine being).

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.The Neoplatonic tradition (Plotinus, Enneads I.6) holds that the soul can achieve henosis—genuine union with the One—through contemplative ascent.
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    • 2.If actual union with the divine is possible, then 'closeness' to divine being is not merely possible but achievable in the strongest sense.
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    • 3.Cardano's claim that human life cannot approach divine being contradicts this well-attested mystical-metaphysical tradition of participatory ascent.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Aquinas (ST I, Q.12) argues that the intellect can know God through the lumen gloriae, achieving real cognitive participation in divine being.
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    • 2.Participation (methexis) in a higher being constitutes genuine ontological closeness even across an infinite qualitative difference.
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    • 3.The premise that 'no proportion exists' ignores the Thomistic analogia entis, which establishes a proportional likeness between finite and infinite being sufficient for real closeness.
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    • 1.Closeness between two levels of being requires some proportion or resemblance between them.
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    • 2.There is no proportion and no resemblance between human finite existence and infinite divine being.
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