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    It is not the case that Human wickedness does not always require divine punishment.

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.Self-ruin from vice is often imperceptible to the wicked agent, who mistakes corrupt pleasures for genuine flourishing (Plato, Republic 580d-588a).
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    • 2.Punishment requires not merely harm but recognition of desert; unfelt self-ruin lacks the retributive structure that justice demands.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Wicked acts harm third parties whose claims to justice cannot be satisfied merely by the agent's internal degradation (Kant, Metaphysics of Morals 6:331-337).
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    • 2.A theory of punishment grounded solely in the perpetrator's self-harm systematically ignores the victim's standing as a rights-bearing moral subject.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Wickedness of itself ruins the life of those who act wickedly.
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    • 2.Self-ruin constitutes a sufficient punishment for wicked action.
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