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    Hume's inference that we immediately perceive only ideas ... — Carmelics
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    Hume's inference that we immediately perceive only ideas or representations depends on ideas lacking the relational characteristics that visible figures have

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    • 1.Visible figures, as Reid demonstrates, are constitutively relational: they are defined by the angle subtended between object and perceiver.
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    • 2.Humean ideas, by contrast, are intrinsic representational items whose content is fixed independently of any particular perceiver-object spatial relation.
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    • 3.Any entity whose existence and character are perceiver-relative cannot be reduced to a mind-internal representation whose properties are intrinsic.
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    • 1.Merleau-Ponty's phenomenology establishes that perceptual content is inherently perspectival, shaped by the embodied subject's position relative to the world.
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    • 2.If perceptual content is irreducibly perspectival, then the Humean model of ideas as discrete inner representations fails to capture the relational structure perception actually exhibits.
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    • 3.The failure to capture this relational structure is precisely what forces Hume to treat the immediate object of perception as a non-relational mental particular, confirming Reid's diagnosis.
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    • 1.Hume reasons from the claim that mind-independent tables are not immediate objects of awareness to the conclusion that we immediately perceive only ideas or representations
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    • 2.This reasoning is only possible because ideas lack the relational characteristics between physical objects and perceivers that visible figures possess
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    A pressing question arises at this juncture: Hasn't Reid now adopted a position according to which there are perceptual intermediaries in the visual perception process? If so, doesn't this imply that Reid's theory will share many of the foibles with which he charges the Way of Ideas? Most answers to these two questions have proven to be contentious in part because Reid's interpreters often bring to this issue prefabricated, a priori definitions of ‘intermediary’, ‘representation’ and ‘directness
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