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    Husserl's account of hearing-oneself-speak as immediate s... — Carmelics
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    Husserl's account of hearing-oneself-speak as immediate self-proximity is undermined by his own description of temporalization.

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    • 1.Husserl's protention-retention structure requires that any 'now' moment already contains traces of the just-past and anticipations of the about-to-come.
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    • 2.A self-presence constituted through temporal flow cannot be simple or punctual — it is internally differentiated by the very structure enabling it.
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    • 3.Therefore, the 'now' of hearing-oneself-speak is never a pure coincidence of emission and reception but a synthesis across temporal difference.
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    • 1.Husserl in 'On the Phenomenology of the Internal Time-Consciousness' acknowledges that retention is not re-presentation but a genuine modification of the primal impression.
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    • 2.If retention modifies rather than merely copies the primal impression, then the living present is constitutively altered by non-presence from within.
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    • 3.Merleau-Ponty's account of the temporal chiasm similarly confirms that self-presence is never immediate but always mediated by the flesh of time.
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    • 1.Husserl claims that hearing-oneself-speak involves no external detour — the hearing and speaking are self-proximate and immediate.
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    • 2.Husserl's own account of the living present requires retention, which introduces a non-present, non-perceptual element into the present moment.
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    • 3.If the living present contains an internal difference (the fold of retention), then the moment of hearing-oneself-speak cannot be purely immediate.
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    More specifically, Derrida argues that, when Husserl describes lived-experience (Erlebnis), even absolute subjectivity, he is speaking of an interior monologue, auto-affection as hearing-oneself-speak. According to Derrida, hearing-oneself-speak is, for Husserl, “an auto-affection of an absolutely unique type” (Voice and Phenomenon, p. 67). It is unique because there seems to be no external detour from the hearing to the speaking; in hearing-oneself-speak there is self-proximity. It seems theref
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