Skip to content
Carmelics
TopicsThinkersChangesContributorsLoading account…

    Carmelics

    A reasoning platform. Break down any belief into clear reasons, explore both sides, and weigh the evidence honestly.

    Navigate

    • Topics
    • Search
    • Recent Changes
    • Contribute
    • How It Works
    • Glossary
    • Thinkers
    • Contributors
    • About
    • Statistics
    • Terms
    • Privacy

    Database

    Statements
    —
    Perspectives
    —
    Topics
    —

    Press ? for keyboard shortcuts

    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
    Made withinDC&Austin
    Statements
    321,452
    Perspectives
    108,905
    Topics
    42
    Home/Original/inverse
    See Original
    Inverse View

    It is not the case that If a B-theoretic subject S knows what time it is at more than one time, then they undergo changes.

    ?Set your confidence on the premises below to see your aggregate.

    Reasons For

    2 perspectives
    Reason for 1 of 2
    ?
    • 1.A B-theoretic subject S can possess a single eternal, unchanging belief-state that encodes all temporal indexicals as relational facts (e.g., 'at t1, it is t1').
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.If all of S's tensed beliefs are reducible to tenseless relational propositions known simultaneously, no belief-state needs to be added, revised, or discarded across time.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.Therefore S can satisfy 'knowing what time it is at more than one time' without undergoing any intrinsic change in their doxastic states.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reason for 2 of 2
    ?
    • 1.On a four-dimensionalist ontology (Sider, Lewis), S is a perduring entity whose temporal parts each instantiate the relevant time-knowledge without any single part changing.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Change for a perduring entity requires that numerically distinct temporal parts differ intrinsically, but distributing knowledge across parts entails no part itself undergoes change.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.The supporting argument conflates change across an entity's temporal parts with change within a persisting subject, which begs the question against the B-theorist.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reasons Against

    1 perspective
    Reason against
    ?
    • 1.How they believe what they believe changes over time.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.They need to keep track of their temporal perspective by having appropriately varied tensed beliefs (e.g., 'it's noon', 'it's 12:01').
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Next step

    Based on where you are in your exploration

    Strongest counterpoint
    Explore the most compelling reason on the other side.