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    It is not the case that If a program creates understanding of Chinese, the understanding mind is distinct from the human operator of the Chinese Room.

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    • 1.Mental states are individuated by causal-functional roles within a system, not by the origin of the content they process (Functionalism, Putnam 1967).
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    • 2.The human operator, not the program, instantiates the causal-functional roles required for understanding within the Chinese Room system.
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    • 3.Therefore, if understanding exists in the system, it is the operator's understanding, not a distinct program-generated mind.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.The supporting argument conflates the vehicle of mental content (the program's database) with the subject who understands (Block's distinction between access and phenomenal consciousness).
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    • 2.Possessing beliefs and desires requires a biological or physical substrate capable of genuine intentionality, which only the human operator provides (Searle's biological naturalism).
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    • 3.A program lacks intrinsic intentionality and cannot be the locus of a distinct mind merely by encoding propositional content.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.The beliefs, desires, memories, and personality traits reflected in the Chinese answers are bestowed by the program and its database, not by the human operator.
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    • 2.A mind is individuated at least in part by its beliefs, desires, memories, and personality traits.
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    • 3.The beliefs and desires expressed in the answers are not the operator's beliefs and desires.
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