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    Challenges→Cognition occurs only when consciously attending to a given object, not merely when object, sense faculty, and consciousness are co-present.

    If attention were constitutive rather than selective, the Yogacara conflates the conditions for cognition's genesis with the conditions for its conceptual elaboration, committing a genetic fallacy.

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    • 1.Genesis and conceptual elaboration are logically distinct processes: origins explain how something begins, not what makes it intelligible.
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    • 2.Yogacara treats attention as foundational to all experience, blurring the distinction between enabling conditions and interpretive frameworks.
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    • 3.Inferring conceptual content from pre-conceptual cognitive origins commits genetic fallacy: a thing's source doesn't determine its nature.
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    • 1.Constitutive processes can be both originary and elaborative simultaneously—they need not be separated into distinct phases with different rules.
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    • 2.The distinction between 'conditions for genesis' and 'conditions for elaboration' may itself be a product of dualistic thinking Yogacara rejects.
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    • 3.Calling this a genetic fallacy assumes attention's role is merely historical; Yogacara claims attention continuously constitutes all cognition.
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    Key Terms

    Genesis(the biblical account being compared to Platonic philosophy)
    The first book of the Hebrew Bible, which describes the creation of the world according to Jewish tradition.
    Genetic fallacy(in logic)
    A logical mistake where you reject an idea just because of where it came from, rather than judging whether the idea itself is actually true or reasonable.
    Yogacara(as the philosophical tradition being criticized in this statement)
    An ancient school of Buddhist philosophy that argues consciousness and the mind are the most fundamental parts of reality, and that the external world might be a construction of our minds.
    cognition(Interpretation of Kant's use of 'cognition' (Erkenntnis) as pertaining to meaning/intelligibility rather than merely knowledge)
    A semantic notion (on the interpretation described)
    conceptual elaboration(describing what happens after something is first created)
    The process of taking a basic idea and building it up into more detailed, refined thoughts and meanings.
    constitutive(an alternative type of relationship the grounding relation might be)
    Describes how something is made up of or formed from basic components that define its essential nature.
    selective(describing an alternative way attention might function)
    Picking or choosing certain things while leaving others out—like how you selectively pay attention to your friend's voice while ignoring background noise.

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