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    If Basic Law V were true, the formal system of Grundgeset... — Carmelics
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    Supports→Frege's Basic Law V cannot be true

    If Basic Law V were true, the formal system of Grundgesetze would be consistent, but Frege himself conceded in his appendix to Grundgesetze Vol. II that Russell's paradox destroys the system's foundations.

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    Basic Law V(Foundational axiom of Frege's logicist program)
    Frege's axiom committing to the existence of a set corresponding to every predicate; also called the unrestricted Comprehension Axiom
    Formal system(as used in logic and mathematics)
    A set of rules and symbols (like mathematical axioms) that you use to prove whether statements are true or false, similar to how a chess game has specific rules that determine what moves are legal.
    Foundations(as in 'foundations of statistical mechanics')
    The basic, underlying principles or assumptions that a field of study is built on—like asking 'what does this really mean at its core?'
    Frege, Gottlob(namesake of the distinction being discussed)
    A German philosopher and mathematician (1848–1925) who developed foundational ideas about how language and meaning work, particularly about the difference between what a word refers to and what it means.

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    Grundgesetze(as the specific work being discussed)
    The title of Frege's major work, meaning 'Basic Laws' in German; it was his attempt to create a complete logical system that would serve as the foundation for all mathematics.
    Russell's paradox(Independently discovered by Zermelo and Russell)
    The paradox of the 'set' of all sets that are not members of themselves
    consistent(Contrasted with the model-theoretic notion of satisfiability)
    A proof-theoretic notion indicating that no contradiction is derivable from a set of sentences

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