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    If bodily identity is grounded in relational organization... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→If Scotus does not acknowledge a forma corporeitatis over and above the forms of the bodily organs, then a corpse is not the same body as the body of the organism.

    If bodily identity is grounded in relational organization rather than a metaphysical form, a corpse can be the same body in a dispositional or structural sense even post-mortem.

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    • 1.Bodily identity persists through radical material replacement (childhood to adulthood), suggesting structure, not substance, grounds identity.
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    • 2.A corpse retains the same organizational blueprint and spatial-temporal continuity as the living body that preceded it.
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    • 3.Post-mortem identity judgments (identifying remains, honoring bodies) presuppose the corpse is the same body, suggesting relational criteria suffice.
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    • 1.Relational organization requires functional capacities (metabolism, homeostasis); death eliminates these, severing identity grounds.
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    • 2.Dispositional properties (potential to think, feel) vanish at death; relying on them makes corpses only structurally, not genuinely, identical bodies.
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    • 3.Common usage treats 'the body' as a living thing; calling a corpse 'the same body' equivocates on 'body,' conflating object with person-substrate.
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