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    If causal relations are just observed regularities betwee... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→One must accept idealism if one accepts Berkeley's re-interpretation of causality as a relation of marks and signs between ideas.

    If causal relations are just observed regularities between ideas, no theological idealist ontology is entailed by accepting the sign-relation account.

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    • 1.Hume's regularity theory of causation treats causes as mere constant conjunctions without requiring deeper metaphysical commitments.
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    • 2.Sign-relations can function adequately within empiricist frameworks without presupposing idealist ontology about the nature of reality.
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    • 3.Accepting observed regularities as causation is logically compatible with physicalism, dualism, and other non-idealist metaphysical positions.
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    • 1.Ideas themselves—the relata in sign-relations—are mental entities, making any theory centered on them inherently idealist in structure.
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    • 2.If causation consists only of observed regularities between ideas, what grounds these regularities except a mind-dependent order or divine will?
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    • 3.Berkeley's idealism explicitly uses sign-relations between ideas to explain apparent physical regularities, showing the framework naturally invites theological conclusions.
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