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    If D's disjuncts are enumerated extensionally rather than... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Moral statement E entails disjunction D

    If D's disjuncts are enumerated extensionally rather than derived from E's intension, D and E can diverge in counterfactual scenarios, defeating entailment.

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    • 1.Extensional enumeration fixes a disjunction to actual members only, lacking modal resources to track which disjuncts remain possible elsewhere.
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    • 2.Intensional derivation grounds disjuncts in properties that persist across possible worlds, preserving entailment relations counterfactually.
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    • 3.Cases exist where actual disjuncts become impossible and new ones necessary in counterfactuals, breaking extensionally-defined entailments.
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    • 1.If D is true in the actual world, D entails itself there; counterfactual divergence doesn't defeat local entailment at the base case.
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    • 2.Intensional definitions can also diverge counterfactually if their source property E shifts meaning or application across possible worlds.
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    • 3.The claim conflates metaphysical grounding with logical entailment; extensional truth-conditions suffice for valid inference within any world.
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