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    If declaratives sufficed for forgiveness, a victim could ... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→The utterance 'I forgive you', understood as a declarative, makes it the case that one has been forgiven, thereby altering the operative norms governing the interaction between victim and wrongdoer.

    If declaratives sufficed for forgiveness, a victim could forgive under coercion or insincerity, which most accounts rightly treat as morally void performances.

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    • 1.Forgiveness involves a genuine internal shift in the victim's disposition toward the wrongdoer, not merely external utterance.
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    • 2.Coerced or insincere declarations lack the authentic moral agency required for acts that fundamentally alter interpersonal relationships.
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    • 3.If declaratives alone sufficed, victims could be forced to perform forgiveness, undermining their autonomy over a deeply personal process.
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    • 1.Many valid moral performances (like promising or consenting) are declaratives whose binding force doesn't depend on perfect internal sincerity.
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    • 2.Coercion and insincerity are separate moral problems distinct from whether forgiveness requires more than declaratives—both can corrupt any act.
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    • 3.Some philosophical accounts treat forgiveness as a commitment to changed relational behavior, which declaratives can successfully initiate regardless of feeling.
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