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    Supports→All relations, not just independent ones, are incapable of relating

    If dependent relations were capable of relating by virtue of their dependence on relata, this dependence would itself be a further relation requiring grounding, iterating the problem.

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    Relata(in philosophy of relations)
    The individual things that a relation connects—for example, in 'Alice loves Bob,' Alice and Bob are the relata (the things being related).
    dependent relations(metaphysics/ontology)
    Connections or relationships between things that only exist because they depend on those things—like how 'being a parent' only exists because there are children to be a parent to.
    grounding(Drawn from contemporary metaphysics; proposed as potentially applicable to understanding the foundations of legality.)
    A metaphysical relation in which some entities or facts are more foundational than others, providing a hierarchical structure of the world.
    infinite regress(modes of argumentation available to a dogmatist)
    An argument structure in which grounds are offered for a claim P, then grounds for those grounds, and so on indefinitely without ever repeating a proposition

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    iterating the problem(logic/reasoning)
    Repeating the same problem over and over in an endless cycle—here, it means if you try to explain one problem, you just create the same problem again that also needs explaining.

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