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    Challenges→Omniscience might involve more than knowledge of propositions.

    If divine omniscience already includes all true propositions including self-locating ones, omnisubjectivity adds no distinct cognitive category beyond complete propositional knowledge.

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    • 1.Self-locating propositions (e.g., 'I am here now') reduce to indexical expressions that omniscience captures via complete propositional knowledge.
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    • 2.If omniscience includes all truths about all times, persons, and perspectives, no experiential fact remains outside propositional knowledge.
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    • 3.Omnisubjectivity as a distinct category requires cognitive states irreducible to propositions, but no such states have been coherently identified.
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    • 1.Knowing that 'pain is painful' propositionally differs from the subjective quale of experiencing pain—a gap propositional knowledge cannot bridge.
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    • 2.Self-locating knowledge requires egocentric perspective; omniscience structured as abstract truths lacks the perspectival structure required to know 'I am here'.
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    • 3.Omnisubjectivity means knowing what it is like to be all conscious subjects—a distinct epistemic category irreducible to third-person propositions.
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    Key Terms

    Cognitive category(asking whether perspective-based knowledge is fundamentally different from factual knowledge)
    A distinct type or kind of knowledge or understanding—essentially a different way of knowing something.
    Divine omniscience(as used in philosophy of religion (implied in this passage))
    The theological claim that God knows everything, including all possible futures and all people's desires.
    Omnisubjectivity(philosophy of religion)
    The idea that God (or some all-knowing being) experiences or is aware of everything subjectively—meaning God doesn't just know facts about the world, but actually experiences what it's like to be in every situation.
    Self-locating propositions(a type of knowledge that might be different from general facts)
    Statements about a specific person's location, time, or perspective—like 'I am here now' or 'It is Tuesday for me.'
    knowledge(Distinguished from mere true belief, which may be the product of indoctrination and need not exercise deliberative capacities.)
    Justified true belief — true belief that has been arrived at through the exercise of deliberative capacities, including comparison of and deliberation among alternatives.
    propositional knowledge(Used to argue that even first-person experiential knowledge involves fallible classification)
    Knowledge expressed as a proposition, which requires classifying the subject matter together with other things of the same type
    true propositions(in metaphysics and logic)
    Statements that accurately describe reality, like 'water boils at 100 degrees Celsius' is a true proposition.

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