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    It is not the case that If every form is a thought, then every form is a thought of a form.

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    • 1.Thoughts require a thinker, but forms exist independently of any mind that thinks them (Plato, Republic 507b–509b).
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    • 2.If forms depended on being thought, they would be contingent on minds, undermining their status as eternal, necessary entities.
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    • 3.A form identified with a thought of itself generates an infinite regress no less vicious than the Third Man Argument it was meant to escape.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Aristotle argues in De Anima (430a3) that the intellect thinks forms without itself becoming those forms, preserving the distinction between act and object.
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    • 2.If the form just is the thought, then the same form thought by different thinkers would be numerically distinct, collapsing the universality that forms are posited to explain.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.The intentional object of every thought is a form.
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    • 2.Every form is a thought.
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