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    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
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    It is not the case that If God made this punishment, He would be unjust

    ?Set your confidence on the premises below to see your aggregate.

    Reasons Against

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    Reason against
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    • 1.Punishment without proportionality to wrongdoing violates basic justice principles recognized across moral systems.
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      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.An omnipotent being could achieve deterrence or reformation without inflicting suffering, making suffering gratuitous.
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      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.Punishing finite human mistakes with infinite or eternal consequences is fundamentally disproportionate.
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      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

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