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    It is not the case that If God possesses perfect foreknowledge, then God creates persons he knows with certainty will reject grace and suffer eternal torment.

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    • 1.Foreknowledge of a choice doesn't causally determine it; God knowing freely-made rejections differs from God causing them.
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    • 2.Creation itself is a good that may justify permitting foreknown suffering, even if God could prevent specific instances of it.
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    • 3.The claim assumes divine benevolence must prevent all suffering—but compatibility theists argue God permits it for greater goods.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Perfect foreknowledge means God knows with certainty which persons will reject grace, as surely as knowing mathematical truths.
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    • 2.Creating someone God knows will suffer eternal torment appears incompatible with omnibenevolence absent compelling justification.
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    • 3.No theodicy adequately explains why an all-powerful God must create beings destined for damnation rather than alternative scenarios.
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