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    It is not the case that If God's eternity is strictly non-successive, then God and temporal creatures cannot occupy a common reference frame without reintroducing succession into eternity.

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    • 1.A common reference frame might be logical/conceptual rather than temporal; non-temporal frames don't require succession to relate entities.
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    • 2.God can access all temporal moments simultaneously without experiencing them successively; this preserves non-succession and allows omniscience.
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    • 3.The claim conflates 'God's internal experience' with 'relations between God and creatures'; God needn't be temporally bound to know temporal facts.
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    • 1.A common reference frame requires shared temporal coordinates; succession is the fundamental basis of temporal coordinate systems.
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    • 2.Non-successive eternity means no before/after distinctions; any framework allowing before/after comparisons reintroduces succession.
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    • 3.God observing temporal creatures requires ordering their states; such ordering necessarily invokes the succession God's eternity transcends.
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