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    It is not the case that If God simply is his attributes, then divine justice and divine mercy are identical, which contradicts the logical incompatibility of their extensions across cases.

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    • 1.Justice and mercy need not be identical in extension; they can be unified properties expressing the same divine nature differently contextually.
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    • 2.The argument conflates conceptual distinction with metaphysical distinction. Attributes are mentally distinguished but ontologically unified in God.
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    • 3.God's transcendence may permit apparent contradictions to resolve at a higher logical level unavailable to human categorical thinking.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Justice demands proportional punishment; mercy demands forgiveness. These have opposite behavioral implications in identical cases.
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    • 2.If God is identical to his attributes, then justice = mercy entails they have identical extensions. But they demonstrably differ.
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    • 3.Classical theism requires God to be simple (non-composite). Simple identity of attributes creates logical contradictions requiring rejection.
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